Friends...does anyone find our WT lessons to be odd? Let me be more specific. In as some of the coordinating scriptures in the paragraphs are not supporting the point they are trying to make? I also find reading the surrounding verses as well as referred scriptures seem to make even less sense to the point in some cases. All this "new light" really friends ?? No one is saying a word? Just like CVD. Any thoughts? It's not coming together for me. In the Bible does it not say ....if a prophesy is ... moreFriends...does anyone find our WT lessons to be odd? Let me be more specific. In as some of the coordinating scriptures in the paragraphs are not supporting the point they are trying to make? I also find reading the surrounding verses as well as referred scriptures seem to make even less sense to the point in some cases. All this "new light" really friends ?? No one is saying a word? Just like CVD. Any thoughts? It's not coming together for me. In the Bible does it not say ....if a prophesy is declared and it does not come true its coming from a false prophet? I remember 1975 friends sold homes properties quit jobs. Has anyone went through the list of changed beliefs on the website? Long list friends. So now for months I have been researching. This caused me to get KJV along with four other bibles. I was raised in the truth . I have never touched a Bible other than the Org's Bible. I got out THE KJV Bible I got today at goodwill.. It is a 1611 version I believe it's the first from Tynsdale. He died a horrid death screaming out to his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I found that out today too. Just because he wanted "the common plow boy " to be able to read it. So sad. I opened to Genisis 1:1 it referred me to John 1:1. AMAZING that it did that I thought . Our literature doesn't. So like I said I've been doing research and taking notes . So much so I can hardly use my hands. I literally had to stop. So I thought I would run it past the group to see if I'm insane. Lol. The Bible has put so much attention on DUALITY if you know what I mean. And names in as much has having two . For instance ...ABRAM/ABRAHAM...meaning righteousness. JACOB /ISRAEL...SO MUCH ATTENTION ON NAMES. Are you with me? You become your name ....ABRAHAM/RIGHTEOUSNESS. SHOWS YOUR CHARACTER. It BECOMES WHO YOU ARE..LITERALLY. So I'm reading these two scriptures over and over. And I get this sort of flush over me. It was weird......Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth. It has just one scripture referenced. John 1:1,2....In the beginning was the word ,and the word was with God,and the word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning. So I also looked into our Bible. JW did not translate Bible from Hebrew and Greek THEMSELVES...but took an already translated version and put JAH where it belonged. Our videos on Bible history might have the info. I watched so many I'm losing track. Now I have defended this scripture all my life. But to see it like this and knowing Tynsdales translation was the FIRST. I think that carries some clout. So I met with a guy who's been studying HEBREW. He has this chart that shows the meaning of each symbol which has four diff meanings to each symbol four diff ways. That's the best way to explain how confusing 😕 it was . But the chart was so awesome . In between the symbols and meaning were four other languages spoke back then with their meanings. To get to the point . First four symbols show. YAHWEH came down ...first symbol....took a body...second symbol...traveled...third symbol....went through a door....fourth symbol. One more thing friends. I saw on chart as well....YHVH...AND ...YHWH. SO ANOTHER DUALALITY. FRIENDS did Jehovah come down into the virgins seed to take on the body of her baby and the womb/cervix be the door he went through? ALL my research shows this . If so we would be worshipping a false God in a false religion. Right? The word Witnesses means Martyrs. Are we all being sacrificed to Satan? I think there is "a man of Lawlessness" in the Org. Who is judged first? I'm not good a quoting scripture. But all should know scripture here in this group. Why are we asked to follow blindly? This is NOT the same Organization I grew up in. I have NO contact with anyone else. But a text every month to turn in my time. I did get three this month. Turn in time . Government link to free cvd supplies and the saying the congregation is full of cVd. Paul was here to preach the gospel. Which was the fact he came to wash away sin forever. FOREVER FRIENDS. washed in the blood of the lamb. He conquered death saved all it says. We are to trust in him JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. I ordered the book JEHOVAH HIMSELF HAS BECOME KING. It never came . So I started digging into things . Now that title warms my heart. Please tell me your thoughts on anything . Sorry so long. Like I said I've been researching for months. Keep well. BE A BOREAN FRIENDS.
Quentin LedfordJoyce Hagan,
John 1:1 is worded differently amongst different translations.
Many of such renderings simply do not make sense in any way. Remember too, that the KJV is not a direct translation, but a version. It served a valuable purpose in its day, but a number of direct translations are far better.
The key to understanding the Bible is this. One must seriously question ANY teaching, viewpoint, or 'understanding' of any scripture which would invalidate, make incongruent, or render contr... moreJoyce Hagan,
John 1:1 is worded differently amongst different translations.
Many of such renderings simply do not make sense in any way. Remember too, that the KJV is not a direct translation, but a version. It served a valuable purpose in its day, but a number of direct translations are far better.
The key to understanding the Bible is this. One must seriously question ANY teaching, viewpoint, or 'understanding' of any scripture which would invalidate, make incongruent, or render contradictory any other scriptural texts.
Such is the case with some of the translations of John 1:1. The viewpoint you've expressed as the concept that 'the WORD' is Jehovah ahd that He himself became the seed, is completely unreasonable and contradictory given the many other scriptures which clearly indicate that this is not, and cannot be the case. The Trinitarian Doctrine (which is what your premise clearly alludes to) is completely fallacious and cannot be reconciled scripturally in any way.
As established in 1933, JWs have had an accurate understanding of basic Biblical doctrines and did jettison the many pagan vestiges holding fast throughout traditional Christendom.
I remember too, that in the late 60s the WT mentioned the year that 1975 was significant, highlighting the fact that the Pope had declared it a 'holy year', providing examples of other adverse events which occurred in other declared 'holy years'. This led many to believe, and to expect, that contrary to the scriptures that this was when Armageddon would commence. However, the organization never directly stated in any way that 1975 would be the end.
I also remember somewhat, that In the late 70s, there was a purging amongst the GB resulting in the DF of, Iif I remember correctly, Brother Knorr's nephew. At that time, there occurred some confusion regarding those who were DF'd and our Kingdom Ministry was changed for a brief period of time to the 'Kingdom Service'.
Yes, again it certainly does appears that something is seriously amiss in the leadership of the GB. The GB established many years ago that the United Nations is Satan's organization, TV was called the 'Devil's eyeball'. and we were consistently warned to be wary of world, its media, and its ways. So now, when it appears that the GB is embracing the media and the direction of any part of the U.N (namely its WHO), it is a matter of serious concern. This though, is a matter for Jehovah himself to set straight, and I have full confidence that He will, and many will be astounded.
Israel was God's chosen nation, yet its direction often waivered from the path Jehovah had directed for them to follow.
The GB is comprised of imperfect people who are just as imperfect as the rest of us, and the GB too, is prone to mistakes and errors (which they have admitted) as well. This though, is why Jehovah provided ALL of us not only with the direction He's given us through His word; but more importantly with our OWN conscience.
For this reason, I stand firm in my resolve as did Joshua facing in some ways, a like situation...
"as for me and my household, we shall serve Jehovah." (Joshua 24:15). In so doing, I will follow my conscience over anything that clearly has NO scriptural support and which violates my conscience, even IF such direction comes from directly from the GB itself.
I do believe that JWs do have the truth and that there is no other organization on the earth like JWs. However, I also believe that we ourselves are responsible for our own decisions and that we need to continually take in knowledge and follow Jehovah's SCRIPTURAL direction.
